tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post8522063589666936013..comments2023-08-27T13:04:51.898+01:00Comments on Freedom-2-Choose (Scotland): Smoking ban compared with Third Reich: Chris CarterBelindahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16284836559314332001noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-84877702815778922642010-12-03T14:36:27.525+01:002010-12-03T14:36:27.525+01:00It would be nice just for a change for judges to t...It would be nice just for a change for judges to try and understand the iniquity of this cruel and spiteful legislation.<br /><br />I of course like many others wish him well...and should he be granted his judicial review then we could see all kinds of things happening.<br /><br />I have to say that I'm reminded of Lord Nimmo's judgement in the Mc Tear case brought against Imperial Tobacco back in 2005. It is of particular relevance with regard to epidemiology.<br /><br /><i>'In any event, the pursuer has failed to prove individual causation.<br />Epidemiology cannot be used to establish causation in any individual case, and<br />the use of statistics applicable to the general population to determine the<br />likelihood of causation in an individual is fallacious. Given that there are<br />possible causes of lung cancer other than cigarette smoking, and given that<br />lung cancer can occur in a non-smoker, it is not possible to determine in any<br />individual case whether but for an individual’s cigarette smoking he probably<br />would not have contracted lung cancer (paras.[6.17.</i><br /><br />The case against Imperial Tobacco failed...this judge simply exercised his common sense.<br /><br />I hope Chris Carter will use this as a precedent.JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239651363530826401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-62152268118694143672010-12-03T13:15:45.972+01:002010-12-03T13:15:45.972+01:00In reponse to some of the comments in that paper I...In reponse to some of the comments in that paper I would like to say:-<br />'cr'- I am a recipient of chemo/radiotherapy in exactly the locations you nominate, I don't smoke and I certainly don't question others rights to smoke for if they choose to then that is their perogative! It is interesting that on my cancer ward many of the smokers take their 'mobile fluid stands' outside to have a cigarette and when asked why, the answer is simple; it appears they ENJOY smoking! Bizarrely, a few of the non smoking 'inmates' also go out with the smokers 'for a breath of fresh air'.<br />' tgit23'-you are absolutely correct, this is exactly the same as Hitler declaring that Jews were vermin and extinction was the only route. It is disgraceful that a democratic country should be held to ransom by health lobby's to such an extent that discrimination against 22%-25% of its population occurs. Politicians should hang their heads in shame!<br />'seamus'- you really ought to open your mind and enlighten yourself to the truth! You speak as a fellow non smoker, but worse, a non smoker indoctrinated with all the brainwashing that has occurred over the past 35 years from ASH et al. Cigarette smoke does not kill you, it may not assist respiratory diseases but it will not kill you! Which do you think is more toxic Seamus, a cigarette or everyday traffic fumes? You don't quibble about the latter because it is accepted that you NEED such yet traffic fumes are far more lethal to the human body-and that's "blown all over you", me and everybody else everyday!<br />Now let's look at the economical side of smoke bans-S.Ireland will do nicely!<br />Government brings in smoking ban - government screaming about loss of important tobacco tax revenue: their own fault!<br />Government brings in smoking ban - government screaming about increasing smuggling rates: their own fault!<br />Government brings in smoking ban to reduce smoker prevalence - smoking rates go up: their own fault!<br />Government brings in smoking ban - businesses close because of and government is concerned about loss of revenue from once viable businesses: thier own fault!<br />No matter which way you look at smoking bans, they are disastrous for any countries economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com