tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post7142923076348800393..comments2023-08-27T13:04:51.898+01:00Comments on Freedom-2-Choose (Scotland): Dutch smoking ban warded off in courtBelindahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16284836559314332001noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-44807199129791151702012-05-16T21:39:30.904+01:002012-05-16T21:39:30.904+01:00I visit The Netherlands regularly and can confirm ...I visit The Netherlands regularly and can confirm that the smoking ban was ignored in many bars and even restaurants before the small bars gained exemption. The anti tobacco industry are lying yet again. I have no sympathy for people like Willemsen or, for that matter, small minded autocratic zealots in general.Ivan Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364023294207490403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-87378681540015853462012-05-16T19:50:26.203+01:002012-05-16T19:50:26.203+01:00It is complete bollocks to state those ashtrays ha...It is complete bollocks to state those ashtrays have returned after the legal exemption for small pubs without staff.<br />They returned after en masse very shortly after the legal victories<br />of Victoria and de Kachel.<br />The Dutch Hoge Raad(sort of supreme court) eventually overturned those decisions , thereby reinstating the full smoking ban but this never resulted in the disappearance of the ashtrays .<br />The legal exemption went into effect about a year after the ruling of the Hoge Raad.Nannystatenoreply@blogger.com