tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post5390125006130835238..comments2023-08-27T13:04:51.898+01:00Comments on Freedom-2-Choose (Scotland): Estimate-riddled study concludes passive smoking causes 1 per cent of deaths globallyBelindahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16284836559314332001noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-67362553642099349662010-11-27T20:44:20.489+01:002010-11-27T20:44:20.489+01:00Personally I'm annoyed about all these people ...Personally I'm annoyed about all these people free riding on my tobacco.Reubenhttp://www.thethirdestate.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-30638890445917751232010-11-27T15:55:40.183+01:002010-11-27T15:55:40.183+01:00They haven't started on fish yet, how long bef...They haven't started on fish yet, how long before all deaths of herrings are smoking related, think of the little kippers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-90935914392039866712010-11-27T09:02:39.656+01:002010-11-27T09:02:39.656+01:00Bonjour Belinda and Michael.....
Being sarcastic I...Bonjour Belinda and Michael.....<br />Being sarcastic I just wonder if second hand stupidity or, and, intolerance exist???<br />I suppose we can prove it Epidemiology but I suppose that will be hard in Biology..lol but we can always lie and pay searcher to use their well-known name on this subject. It is just a question of money… I suppose we can ask sponsorship of insurance companies because that will give they a reason to not pay…. lol<br />If yes I will pray for all the children growing up around ASH Scotland. They are told what to do and will not use their mind to analyse and will never get to the meaning of “common sense”<br /><br />See I am not loosing my sense of humour and I cannot still understand how people cannot see this manipulation witch is “Chrystal Clear” <br />If we admit that second hand smoking exist (witch was NEVER PROVEN) Why there are doctor or scientific who still smoke around their children???Frederique Dupontnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-75884290610512333852010-11-27T01:04:04.725+01:002010-11-27T01:04:04.725+01:00Thanks all for your link to the article, which I m...Thanks all for your link to the article, which I mistakenly said was 'behind a pay wall'. Have done a small edit.Belindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16284836559314332001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-75308522563171077912010-11-26T17:34:35.313+01:002010-11-26T17:34:35.313+01:00The 600,000 "deaths" cited in this artic...The 600,000 "deaths" cited in this article are imaginary: they are spit out by a model based on the old computer program called SAMMEC: Smoking Attributable Mortality, Morbidity, and Economic Costs. The number can be anything the researchers want it to be, just depending upon the formulae, estimates, and base numbers they put into it. <br />' <br /> If they're against smoking to begin with, or if their projects have gotten paid for with antismoking grants that could have been used to prevent hundreds of thousands of very real, indisputable, and immediate deaths of children from diarrhea, cholera, and plain starvation, then the numbers will show hundreds of thousands of theoretical "secondhand smoke deaths." Given that the money for this research largely came from NY's Mayor Bloomberg who has declared it his mission to "make smoking as difficult and expensive as possible" the results aren't surprising at all. <br /> ' <br /> The real crime is that the World Health Organization, pushed by antismoking fanatics, is throwing the children it COULD have saved from basic diseases into graves simply so it can push its ideological upper middle class nonsense. <br /> ' <br /> Michael J. McFadden,<br /> Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"Michael J. McFaddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12181949578184965482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-80178453143554991552010-11-26T17:28:36.262+01:002010-11-26T17:28:36.262+01:00You can access the full text easily:
http://www.w...You can access the full text easily:<br /><br />http://www.who.int/quantifying_ehimpacts/publications/smoking.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-37780938918681221402010-11-26T14:47:04.678+01:002010-11-26T14:47:04.678+01:00Belinda, I just access the complete study. If is f...Belinda, I just access the complete study. If is free and all you need to do is register at The Lance.<br /><br />"I imagine they do it by calculating the excess of exposed over non-exposed people in 192 countries, using indicators such as cotinine in hair to estimate exposure levels."<br /><br />Nope. They did it with magic based on RR's and attribution figures.<br /><br />and the purpose of this study...............the study states it very clearly.<br /><br />"Prompt attention is needed to dispel the myth that developing countries can wait to deal with tobacco-related diseases until they have dealt with infectious diseases. Together, tobacco smoke and infections lead to substantial, avoidable mortality and loss of active life-years of children."<br /><br />"Smoke-free laws banning smoking in indoor workplaces rapidly reduce numbers of acute coronary events.35, 36 Therefore, policy makers should bear in mind that enforcing complete smoke-free laws will probably substantially reduce the number of deaths attributable to exposure to second-hand smoke within the first year of its implementation, with accompanying reduction in costs of illness in social and health systems."Ann W.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-4419325668252181292010-11-26T11:23:00.233+01:002010-11-26T11:23:00.233+01:00Thanks, Anon, I'll leave a note here if I don&...Thanks, Anon, I'll leave a note here if I don't come across it.Belindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16284836559314332001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-260937491645277092.post-58461475609456628162010-11-26T11:13:10.100+01:002010-11-26T11:13:10.100+01:00The article is not just paywalled, it's an onl...The article is not just paywalled, it's an online pre-pub, so can't get it at all at the moment. It should be accessible to my library next week, and If you still don't have it I'll send you a copy. If you make big claims like that, then everyone deserves to scrutinise them. (That would be good science...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com